neighborhood dispute turned deadly. two people dead, one person in custody. i just spoke to a neighbor. hear what she had to say about the suspect coming up. also the first presidential debate is in the books. the surprising reaction from analysts and voters in the bay area. hear who they think came out on top and why. and an expected 25-degree dropoff where we started off the week and rain in the forecast. we'll guide you through it. plus i've got your roads but a big delay on the rails. we'll have the latest on the b.a.r.t. problems coming up. good morning and thanks for waking up with us. it's 5:00. i'm marla tellez in for laura garcia-cannon. >> and i'm jon kelley. yes, round one officially in the books this morning. two candidates, one debate and one face-off and now has the nation buzzing. >> there was little drama and no memorable one-liners.

tracie potts begins our live coverage this morning from denver and how it's being received there. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. well, mitt romney came here under pressure to perform against what even some republicans say is one of the most skilled debaters in modern politics. the debate was to make differences clear on lowering the debt. >> you said you'd cut the deficit in four. it's four years later, we still have trillion dollar bef sits. >> the way we do it is $2.50 for every cut, we ask for $1 of additional revenue paid for, as i indicated earlier, by asking those of us who have done very well in this country to contribute a little bit more to reduce the deficit. >> reporter: the president insisted romney would spend $5 trillion on tax breaks favoring the wealthy. >> math, common sense and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growth. >> everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> reporter: they clashed on wall street, whether banks

should be too big to fail and medicare. >> cutting $716 billion from medicare to balance the additional cost of obama care is in my opinion a mistake. >> if you repeal obama care, an i have become fond of this term, obama care, if you repeal it, what happens is, is those seniors right away are paying $600 more in prescription care. >> reporter: the fiercest exchange over health care and jobs. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> we did work on this, alongside working on jobs, because this is part of making sure that middle class families are secure in this country. >> reporter: president obama on defense, romney challenging his record as both now wait to see if this exchange had any impact on voters. but we already know it had some

impact online. on twitter this was the most tweeted event in u.s. political history. we are live from denver this morning. i'm tracie potts. back to you. >> okay, thanks so much. well, president obama and mitt romney will not meet again until october 16th. >> here to help sort things out, santa clara university -- political science professor jim cottrell joins us. thanks for getting up early with us. jim, a lot going on last night. romney was the aggressor, president obama doing a little rope-a-dope there. in your mind what kind of grade would you give these candidates. >> i'd have to say romney probably felt like he earned an "a." he seemed confident and assertive. one of the key things is he wanted to reassure voters he understood their problems and he from the outset from his initial statement, i think he did a pretty good job of suggesting that. he cared about jobs and the economy and probably passed the test of reassuring voters that

he did understand the problems that we're facing. >> and now we are, what, 12 days away until the next debate. professor, what do the two candidates need to do between now and that next date on the 16th? >> well, i think obama needs to become a little bit more assertive, a little bit more aggressive. as the front runner, i believe he felt like he could just sort of coast a little bit and as the front runner not make any mistakes and perhaps maybe romney would make some mistakes. i think romney needs to be more specific about his plan if he wants to move forward. he needs to give those details that obama was hammering him on. >> it will be interesting to see how that next one pans on. the next one is a town hall with a list of people versus a single moderator asking the questions. we want to know right now with a set-up like that, who do you think will come out on top? >> i think obama will be much better prepared an his general demeanor typically plays well for a town hall meeting. if he can eliminate the pauses and come out with a little more energy, i think he'll probably

do pretty well at a town hall format. >> so specifically what does each candidate need to do to sway voters in that next debate? >> i think both of them really need to speak to the concerns of the voters. they need to appear concerned about the state of the country. i think obama needs to do a better job of promoting the things and benefits of his presidency and talk a little bit about what he's done to help the american people. romney needs to keep doing what he's doing and be adwrggressived assertive and offer some details of his plan. >> the consensus definitely that round one goes to mitt romney. we'll see how obama steps up in round two. jim, thank you very much for getting up early with us and joining us today. >> thank you. >> nbcbayarea.com will have your complete coverage of last night's debate in denver. check that out and read the entire transcript of the 90-minute exchange and also see video highlights from both president obama and mitt romney. be sure to let us know what you

think and how the candidates did. you'll find the full debate coverage link right on that home page. 5:06. new this morning, a fight between three neighbors has left two men dead and a 65-year-old man in police custody. this investigation is taking place on foulkstone way in the glen cove neighborhood. christie smith is live this morning with what neighbors are saying about the man who is now in custody. christie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. well, first of all, the neighborhood is quiet right now. vallejo police are really trying to figure out what the motive was behind this whole dispute that left two neighbors dead. now, some people who live here say that the suspect lived in this home that had a u.s. marine flag flying in the yard. that he was known to have guns. vallejo police took that man into custody. this all started about 6:00 last night. police got a call of several shots fired and two people laying down in the front yard.

both of them pronounced dead here at the scene. their names have not been released but they are 50 and 58 years old, possibly two men. now, the suspect apparently took out a gun and fired and that's what police are saying, that he confronted two men in the driveway. when police arrived, they say that the man was inside a home. police hostage negotiators tried to talk with him for about 45 minutes and he finally came out without incident and was arrested. i just spoke with one woman off camera who was very upset about this and said it was actually a couple who lived in the house where the victims died. he doesn't exactly know who the people are who died. she tried to knock on the door to see who was still there but didn't get an answer. she said that these neighbors often debated about things like politics and that honniger was a vietnam veteran. they had a temper and sometimes

they went back and forth about politics and noise in the neighborhood but overall they seemed to get along, so she said that this whole thing really doesn't make sense. reporting live in vallejo, christie smith, "today in the bay." san jose police at this hour investigating homicide number 35 and 36 in their city. police responding to a fight in the downtown area and when they arrived there, they found a victim lying unconscious on the sidewalk. the man was discovered about 8:30 last night near south 2nd and east san fernando streets just off of the san jose state campus. investigators right now are not saying exactly how they died but do believe he was involved in a fight with at least one suspect. so far there have been no arrests made. and police also investigating a deadly gang-related shooting in east san jose. this one happened about 12:30 this morning near the corner of dobern and south jackson avenue just down the street from capital park. somebody shot and killed a man while he was standing outside a

home with a group of friends. the armed suspect remains at large. as we said, this one marks san jose's 36th homicide of the year. san jose police are also investigating an officer involved shooting involving a san mateo county sheriff's deputy. it happened near a caltrain station last night. it began with an altercation between the deputy and a man who was standing on the tracks. when officers tried to get him off the tracks, the suspect took off. after a short foot chase, police say the man came at them with a metal spike. the deputy fired several rounds. that suspect was taken to valley medical center with nonlife-threatening injuries. the driver of a big rig that crashed into an amtrak train causing it to derail is talking this morning. 32-year-old macario medina told police he doesn't know why he drove his big rig through a flashing crossing gate that caused him to hit the train. the crash happened monday just south of fresno. the train was traveling from

oakland to bakersfield. the chp said medina was not upper the influence of any drugs or alcohol at the time of the crash. 39 people on the train were hurt. it's 5:10 right now. christina lowren is telling us about your thursday forecast. >> cooling us down, keeping it nice and it's been so hot over the past few days, this is a very, very much welcomed cooldown. look at this, old glory blowing in the winds. we've had offshore flow the past few days. our winds are going to shift. look at this start, though. almost uniform temperatures all across the bay area. not much separation between san jose and santa rosa. and we're all close to that 60-degree mark to start. it's really mild out there. i want to tell the story of the day with your futurecast. look at this, getting a little bit of drizzle as we make our way through the morning hours. you want to give yourself a little extra time along the

peninsula. mike and i will be here to guide you along. still, a fair amount of cloud cover right on the coastline. so one of those days where you will notice the difference. you might want to break out that jacket come tomorrow morning. 76 in san jose, 74 los gatos, 70 in santa cruz an you'll hit 69 degrees in the city by the bay today. major changes ahead. we'll track the showers for you coming up in my next report, but first let's track that drive with mike. you know what, the roads are doing all right. we'll show you the bay bridge n drivers. if you're trying to get in the city via b.a.r.t., there is an issue. we'll talk about getting out of the oakland station. here's 880 through the area. there are major delays reported out of downtown oakland headed over towards fremont, sfo and millbrae. a disabled maintenance vehicle is on the tracks so there will be some slow-moving b.a.r.t. trains for the time being. the roadways are okay if you want to choose that as an option. no problems for the castro valley or across 92. we'll catch up with folks on the

peninsula side. a smooth drive but the san mateo bridge over to the foster city side has been a tough drive all week so we're looking at a smooth light flow right now. early start, big advantage. baseball season extended. are you excited about it? >> i am pumped up to say the least. >> get ready for the postseason. the a's win the a.l. west. the giants tops in their division. wee look at their playoff schedule next. and electric carmaker tesla defending itself this morning. so do something nice for it. chevron with techron. care for your car.

a surprise for tesla but the company finding itself defending itself this morning a day after governor mitt romney called america's investment in the electric car company a, quote, mistake.

scott mcgrew, romney lumping tesla with solyndra. >> well, they're both green energy companies, both took department of energy loans and both are from a state where romney is going to lose anyway so the jab probably didn't cost the governor anything. tesla clarified some of the recent financial statements saying not only is tesla very healthy, it would be cash positive by next month. in fact it may pay off the department of energy loan early. tesla has always made its doe payments on time and never asked for a delay repayment ever. i don't know how to state this more clearly. meanwhile hewlett-packard's ceo meg whitman says her company will take much longer to turn around than she first thought and make a lot less money than investors had hoped. that and concern over europe are hanging over wall street. jackie is live at cnbc

headquarters with more. good morning, jackie. >> reporter: good morning to you, scott. well, the futures are modestly higher and this is after we eked out small gains yesterday. investors were first cheered on by data on private sector job growth but that was offset by hp issuing a disappointing earnings forecast. meantime european markets are in the red today and here at home we'll get data on unemployment filings and factory orders. also watching for the minutes from last month's fed meeting. the dow rising 12 points to close at 13,494. the nasdaq a 15-point gain to 3,135. and toys r us getting into the movie business shall guys. the toy retailer launching its own digital entertainment service with more than 4,000 kid friendly movies and tv shows available for streaming or download. the service, toysrusmovies.com.

intel's ceo says many of his older employees ask to transfer out of california. he was addressing a gherconfere in southern california. they quoted the head of the company saying his younger workers are eager to come to california but as they get older, get married and have kids, many ask to move out of state. you know, it's fairly common for ceos to be harsh about california schools and the state of education. now what are they going to do about it? that's what i want to know. >> and golden state, it is hard to beat. >> weatherwise. >> marla and i both grew up in public schools here in california, so take that. temperatures are looking good. and my mom is a kindergarten teacher and she's a darn good one. 5:17 now, taking a live look outside san jose. beautiful conditions out there. i know you're shocked to find out my mom's a kindergarten teacher, right? temperatures are going to be so

comfortable. as you're getting your little ones ready you don't need to bundle them up but we are going to see much cooler weather, so you don't need to put them in the tank tops. only breaking into the 60s. low pressure tracking closer to the coastline. this guy is carrying cool air, a lot of moisture. this is going to change our pattern dramatically starting today, even more so as we head through tomorrow. we're expecting showers and 5 to 10 degrees cooler than yesterday. we dropped off 10 degrees from the previous day. now friday things get active around here. in fact we are expecting a little shower activity as of tomorrow night. strong onshore flow, thick low clouds and as a result much cooler weather. 75 degrees, perfection in redwood city. 81 in livermore, 72 in oakland and 76 in san jose. now, i did want to point out if you're headed to fleet week today, oh, it's going to be phenomenal out there. as we progress throughout the week the clouds will increase. today might be your best day to do so, certainly the warmest of

the next three. 69 degrees out there on the bay today. friday 66 and saturday 63 degrees. it is going to be a traffic nightmare in the city this weekend. that's why mike inouye and myself have been called in. i'll be covering the weather on saturday, he'll be covering the traffic on sunday. we'd love if you would join us right here. as we head throughout the weekend, the 70s. all the way through the end of next week. a little shower activity monday and tuesday. tuesday is the best day for the entire bay area to get wet. wednesday into thursday we start to ramp those numbers up, expecting another warm-up toward the end of next week. so the ever-changing forecast that comes along with fall, that's what we're dealing with. let's check your drive. >> folks, for the south bay a nice, easy drive. the volume just starting to pick up north of 680 for 101 and not a big surprise. pretty typical pattern for your northbound routes. construction is still going on southbound 880 as you're passing 237.

you'll start to see more lights and construction over on the right side of the road as you get toward montague, you'll lose a lane or so. we see a little slowing. by the time you get to brokaw, it's all clear. so thougnot a big problem. a look at 880 heading southbound with the headlights, no problems here. north an easy drive as well. the b.a.r.t. system coming out of oakland, still half an hour or more delays because of a disabled maintenance vehicle online causing a great deal of slowing on those tracks. let's get another live look outside and look at the bay bridge where we're showing an easy flow. if you're going to sfo, a similar situation with delays coming out of oakland. southbound 101 just starting to pick up the volume but the speeds are just fine out of novato to san rafael. back to you. i know you know there was a whole lot of traffic in oakland yesterday because of all the magic there. >> the oakland a's have shocked the rangers and the baseball world, and they are the a.l.

western division champions. unbelievable! >> let's hear that again. >> my three favorite words. >> amazing when you think more pundits counted these guys out at the start of the season and even the midway point. the a's win the a.l. west title and solidify their spot in the playoffs. fans are riding high. >> i didn't go to the bathroom and i didn't have no beers so i watched the whole game. it was awesome. it was awesome! >> i love that guy. he'll be able to take a bathroom break during the next game. the a's start the next game in detroit. the a's are back in oakland for game three. that time is also needing to be determined. >> that is a true fan. no brew and no path room break. way to go, man. well, the giants also know who they'll be facing in their opening series of postseason play. they start a five-game series on

saturday at home at at&t park taking on the cincinnati reds. game time set for 6:30. game two on sunday, time to be determined and then game three in cincinnati. that will be on thursday. the time still set to be scheduled. san francisco, they still may be playing for that world series trophy, but one of their players has taken home a big-time honor. how about buster posey? he's won the national league batting title finishing very strong with a .336 batting average. >> congrats to him. so let me get this straight. we'll have major league baseball players, navy pilots and america's cup sailors in town this weekend. >> sounds like a bash to me. >> sounds like a place i need to be. coming up, the shocking new study out of uc berkeley that's raising big concerns for moms-to-be. ♪

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this morning is raising concerns for expectant mothers. cal researchers say the chemical bpa could be linked to changes to thyroid hormones in pregnant women and young boys. the thyroid plays a major role in the development of young children. in early findings when mothers had high levels of bpa, their newborns, especially boy, had a more active thyroid. bpa is found in many household items, including canned good lining and in plastic bottles. researchers say you can limit your exposure by eating foods that are not heavily packaged and also buying bottles that are bpa-free. 5:25 right now. bay area weather this week, all about the extremes. christina loren telling us it started hot, finishing cool. >> yeah, finishing cool. i will say that i do believe we have hit our highest point for the year. unfortunately, we hit it for the first week of october. we do have another warmup on the way as we head through the end of next week, but temperatures are going to cool.

we're going to see overcast conditions starting this morning at the coast. 59 degrees in san francisco right now. we're at 58 in livermore. i'll let you know if we're expecting showers in your city over the course of the weekend and we're going to take an in-depth look at some of the forecast for the major events happening for the mega weekend in san francisco. let's check out your drive at 5:26. >> hey, the drive is fine. unfortunately you don't have to wait until the weekend for major problems and delays in your commute because of the b.a.r.t. system. we're sounding like we're up to 45 minutes to an hour. the map we'll show you is talking about the area we'll use as an alternate. this is heading over to the peninsula. that's under the bay as an alternate to the bay bridge or south down towards fremont. both of these areas moving smoothly all the way down into the south bay for 880. but again you'll want to hit the roads to car pool because the b.a.r.t. system has a major delay. 5:26. still to come on "today in the bay" community outcry after a

recent string of violence in the south bay.

this morning vallejo police trying to figure out what was behind a neighborhood dispute that left two people dead. i'll tell you what neighbors are saying about the suspect. >> reporter: and i'm bob redell. i'll take you back live to san francisco for the layest on this week's america's cup competition. >> the stronger the winds, the better of competition. temperatures today in the 80s inland, 70s bayside, 60s at the coast. our winds are going to pick up and we have showers on the way. we'll take you to your forecast. and two words, stand down if you were on big alert for the b.a.r.t. system. we just talked to the spokesperson and we have updates adjusting your time frame coming up. and giving you a live look at the traffic moving along in the east bay in oakland. looks like the commute is picking up on this thursday, october 4th. this is "today in the bay."

it is straight up 5:30. a very good morning to everybody. always happy to have you along fothe ride. i'm jon kelley. >> and i'm marla tellez. laura garcia-cannon is off today. we will get to coverage of the presidential debate in just about ten minutes, but happening now, two men are dead and another in jail after a fight between neighbors got way out of hand. the investigation is taking place on foulkstone way in the glen cove neighborhood. christie smith is live this morning with what we have learned overnight. christie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, marla. vallejo police are still trying to figure out what set this whole thing off but i did speak with one woman who tells me that she does know the suspect and that he lived in this home here that has the marine flag. that he was a veteran and nice guy, she describes him that way, but she said he did have a temper.

last night vallejo police took that man into custody. he has been identified as 65-year-old martin hoeneger. police got a call about shots fired in the glen cove neighborhood on foulkstone way. they found two victims down outside of a home, both of them men. they were right across the street from the suspect. now, hoeneger was inside the home and after 45 minutes he came out and was arrested. police not identifying the victims but say they are 50 and 58 years old. a neighbor tells me a man and woman live inside the home where the victims were found outside. she knocked, no answer. she's not sure who has actually passed away here. she also tells me that these groups, at least from the two different homes, sometimes debate about politics and noise in the neighborhood, but overall seemed friendly, so this whole

thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense to her. reporting live in vallejo, christie smith, "today in the bay." san jose police investigating homicides 35 and 36 in their city. police responding to a fight in the downtown area. when they arrived, they found a victim unconscious on a sidewalk. that man was discovered about 8:30 last night near south 2nd and east san fernando streets just off of the san jose state campus. investigators right now at this hour not saying exactly how he died, but they do believe he was involved in a fight with at least one suspect. so far there have been no arrests made in this case. and police also investigating a deadly gang-related shooting in the east part of san jose. it happened around 12:30 this morning near the corner of dobern an south jackson avenue just down the street from capital park. investigators say somebody shot and killed a man while she was standing outside of a home with a group of friends. that armed suspect right now still remains at large.

again, these deaths are san jose's homicides number 35 and 36. just hours before this recent run of violence, hundreds of people gathering in east san jose to pray for peace. they formed a prayer chain at our lady of guadalupe church and called for an end to all the violence. >> this is just a start. we have a meeting called the peace committee. it's a committee to for peace. we're just really concerned because there has been a lot of violence in our community in this part of the city and as a matter of fact we have a lot of parishioners that have lost a lot -- you know, a loved one. >> the people gathered at that church. they say they have basically one main message to send out to the community. together they can stop the violence. >> that's not all. san jose police are investigating an officer-involved shooting involving a san mateo county sheriff' deputy. it happened near a caltrain station last night. police say it began with an

altercation between that deputy and a man who was standing on the tracks. when officers tried to get him off the tracks, the suspect took off. after a short foot chase, police say the man came at them with a metal spike. the deputy fired several rounds. the suspect was taken to valley medical center with non-life-threatening injuries. >> and it's safe to say san francisco has kind of got it going on this weekend right here in the bay area. the navy blue angels are goring up for fleet week and it is day two of the america's cup qualifying match. bob redell is live in san francisco. as always, a little behind-the-scenes look at how some of the world's best sailors get down and do their thing. bob, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, jon. hopefully this breeze that we're seeing already this early hour is a good sign for what it will be line -- the conditions will be like later today on the pay. last time we spoke on air at 11:00 a.m. yesterday, it was clear skies, very hot out. not exactly ideal conditions for

when you're trying to sail a boat and need the win. by late afternoon that fog did roll in, the temps dropped a little bit and with that the winds did come in time for the first day of qualifying yesterday afternoon. team korea one of the teams advancing to the quarterfinals eking out team luna rosa. what's interesting about team korea iwho's at the helm. the youngest skipper competing this year, 21 years old, joined the team after winning a silver medal for sailing at the olympics in london this past summer. now here he is in contention for another title during this week's world series. >> it was pretty ropey there for a while. we were trying to throw it away a little so we managed to work together and all the guys worked really hard. >> reporter: jon, as you mentioned, yes, there's a lot going on and above the bay

today. 12:20 is the match race quarterfinals for the world series. 1:00 the blue angels will be practicing and at 5:10 tonight the fleet racing, the start of that. you've got 11 boats out there from eight different teams. come out to marina green or the america's cup village right by the st. francis yacht club here in san francisco. the america's village opens up at 10:00 this morning. because rememb bob redell, "today in the bay." >> you might check it out? >> yeah, why not. >> you better watch out announcing that, there will be an onslaught of marla tellez fans. >> i'm a little concerned about whiplash because of all the men in town. marla said it the best. you've got the marines, fleet week, oh, it's going to be fabulous out there, giants fans as well. and of course those blue angels. now, today is going to be the best opportunity to see those

blue angels. we have some major changes, you just saw that on the water with bob. temperatures this morning are crisp in san francisco. this is the last morning where we start out in the upper 50s. as we head through tomorrow, things dramatically change. 81 inland, 72 bayside and 69 degrees at the coast. so let's talk about some of those changes right now. the winds will increase just in time for the race. we're talking about substantial 10 to 15 to 20 miles per hour sustained wind speeds gusting to 30 to 40 miles per hour from time to time and that is going to make for some really great action out there on the pay. 69 degrees at 4:00 p.m., 65 at 5:00 p.m. and 63 degrees at 6:00 p.m. tomorrow things change. we'll take you through the changes. also taking a close look at what the giants will be playings first playoff games. back to you, mike. we want to update folks on the system. here we're looking at oakland 880 past the coliseum. holding steady with the volume

of traffic. that's good news. go ahead and maintain your traditional plans because we just talked to jim allison from b.a.r.t. spokesperson and he said the hour delay that some folks are rumoring, that's really exaggerated. in fact they expect to have the tracks cleared any second now. let's just say the b.a.r.t. tracks are clearing now an so downtown oakland should be recovering to the peninsula as well as to fremont after the earlier disabled maintenance vehicle was there. we expect those schedules to recover very quickly. jim says it shouldn't be a major problem because it happened so early in your commute. again, we'll check those times and lou a few extra minutes. your drive on 880 moves smoothly or across over the bay bridge over to the bay as well. we'll look over towards palo alto and no problems with north 101 or south heading to the south bay. back to you. it is 5:38 right now. coming up, we go out to denver and break down the big debates. >> mr. president, you're entitled to your own airplane and your own house but not to

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5:41 now. it is back to the campaign trail this morning for president obama and mitt romney. both spent a lot of time talking about jobs and the economy this last night's debate. overnight the romney campaign released a new ad talking about, what else, jobs. tracie potts is live in denver bringing us the latest from the campaign trail. good morning. >> reporter: hi, marla, good morning from the university of denver. they talked about it here last night and now he's talking about it this morning on the air waves. mitt romney with his new ad explaining how he expects to create 12 million jobs over four years if he's elected. he says he'll do it through energy independence and tax

reform. this was a big topic in the debate last night, not only talking about jobs but they also talked about health care. they talked about medicare as well. romney off to virginia today with paul ryan for his post-debate rally there today and in fact virginiaes one of the states that our polls showed right before this debate where he's starting to close the gap. the president after having another rally here is off to wisconsin where he'll speak to a college crowd, familiar crowd for the president. perhaps a little more comfortable than last night. some of the spin after that debate last night and some of the instant polls are giving this one to romney. some of that spin saying that the president wasn't quite as passionate as many even democrats thought he might be. of course we've got two more debates to go. marla. >> thank you very much. so-called experts on both sides of the aisle say mitt romney did have the better performance. right now santa clara political

university professor jim cottrell, i think many were surprised to see mitt romney animated, connected and passi passiona passionate. >> he seemed very polished, seemed very prepared and exuded confidence. i think in comparison to obama, he was -- obama was more hesitant and seemed like he wasn't on his game last night. i don't think he did a lot to reassure voters about the path that the country is on. >> well, a lot on the line, obviously. a very tight race right now. each candidate coming in obviously wanting to get a message across last night. what do you think, were they each successful making their point to the american public? >> well, i think romney was successful in sort of reassuring voters that he understands their problems and that he wants to create jobs. he wasn't very specific about the details of his plan in that regard. obama didn't show that passion. he didn't seem to be energetic

and let romney take the tempo of the debate from him. >> we're always looking for those little nuggets. donald trump got a mention last night. mitt romney using sesame street in part of his debate. working very hard to get a point across. he cut off moderator jim lehrer several times, including this one. watch it. >> so i get rid of that. i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. and i like pbs, i love big bird, i actually love you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> tell me how to get to sesame street. the comments blew up on twitter. somebody creating a an @firebigbird account. so romney using the sesame street analogy, did he get his point across? >> i think he showed a little humor and spontaneity, which is good for him to showb robotic.

it made the point he wanted to cut spending and get the deficit under control. in that regard i think he was effect wif that. >> jim, thanks for getting up earl wiy with us. also weighing in last night, a group of political science students from san jose state. they watched the debate together in downtown san jose. after it was over, even some of the president's biggest supporters in that room felt that romney had a slight edge. >> overall romney from my perspective did a little bit better. he wasn't as specific as obama, but he set out to attack obama more. >> a political science professor from san jose state told us she thinks romney will get a bump in the polls from this debate. the polls will be coming out soon enough. she says whether that bump comes in the swing states where the race is close, well, that remains to be seen. >> so we've got two more bouts between the heavyweights. the next thing coming up is the vice presidential debate.

christina loren is back talking about hot to cool. >> yeah, a lot of people probably tired after watching those debates late last night. now temperatures this morning are crisp. it's refreshing out there. happy to report we are going to be much cooler than where we started out the week. we still have good visibility in downtown san francisco. taking a live look at the palace of fine arts, beautiful shot there this morning. let's get right to your temperatures. they are comfortable out there. we're in the 50s and 60s just about everywhere. 59 in fairfield, 58 in concord and 57 degrees to start you out in sunnyvale. so here is our weather maker. area of low pressure riding closer to the coastline. as we head throughout the next 48 hour, this is really going to change our pattern. as you know, we hit records and smashed records to start the week. today we fall back in the 70s and 80s inland. livermore, i'm only forecasting about 81 degrees. all right, let's get to the action. america's cup world series, oh, it's going to be so nice out there today, but not so much the case tomorrow. if you can get out there today,

it is the best day to do so. 69 degrees at 4:00 p.m., 65 at 5:00 p.m. and at 6:00 p.m., 63 degrees. of course nbc bay area, the proud home and we're going to have all that action over the course of your columbus day weekend. 75 in redwood city, 76 in san jose today. three-day forecast shows you we stay nice and cool all the way through the end of the week. let's check your drive with mike. >> we want to check the maps. we'll show you the bay bridge toll plaza. a lighter volume but starting to pick up volume coming off of the east shore freeway and out of the berkeley curve. overall things are moving nicely. down here i'm talking about major b.a.r.t. delays. when b.a.r.t. talks about major delays, anything more than 15 minutes. so we're looking at 15 to 20 from talking to jim allison. he said that the train itself, those are delayed because of a disabled maintenance vehicle but the delays systemwide, they are that ripple effect but should recover very quickly as that

vehicle clears and the tracks are back to their normal schedule. we're also looking at a typical schedule for 580 westbound coming out of the altamont pass. your typical build coming into livermore. speeds closer to the upper 40s coming down to the mid-40s as the build comes for the commute here. the south bay, a live look for san jose. we'll show you northbound 101 coming up underneath the 680/880 interchange. it will really quick in about six:15. and we'll go look farther north at 101 as you're coming southbound through the curves at terra linda, picking up the volume of the a little glow to the lights. there's more moisture to the air and thank goodness it's a little cooler as well. >> thanks so much. 5:48. later this morning oakland leaders will address the latest spree of deadly violence gripping that city. leaders will hold a joint press conference today and give information on a string of recent shootings during an 18-hour period starting on

monday night. five men were shot to death in different parts of the east oakland. investigators say the shootings do not appear to be related. oakland now has 94 homicides this year. marla, in a little bit of a surprise here, no verdict in the case against a former san francisco crime lab tech accused of stealing drugs. a hearing will be held next week to decide if debra madden will be retried. madden right now facing federal charges of skimming cocaine from the city's crime lab back in 2009. the allegations ultimately led to the closure of that lab and prompted prosecutors to actually dismiss hundreds of criminal cases of the jurors say the prosecutors just did not prove madden was deceptive so they could not come to a verdict. 5:49. gay rights activists in san francisco are planning to demonstrate outside the splags of archbishop salvatore cordileone. the 56-year-old played a major

role supporting prop 8, the proposition measure defining measure. but back in august courcordileo was arrested. it is straight up 5:50. coming up -- >> i was there in '89. this is way louder. this is something that came from nowhere to overcome and it was awesome. it was just awesome. >> stick around, that gentleman is one of the best sound bites of the day. oakland a's fans ecstatic because their team is the a.l. west champion. a tweet and a bad one at that. we'll take a look at it coming up.

no doubt about it, a lot of good vibrations for bay area baseball fans, but for the san jose sharks, as we give you a live look at the hp pavilion, not so great. the lockout in effect. the games of the regular season were supposed to start on october 11th but if they don't get this deal worked out the next couple of days, they'll start chopping into that regular season schedule. already put the preseason games on ice. we'll keep you posted if anything starts to pop. how about good news and good morning, oakland. your a's are now the a.l. west division champions. >> it's just something that you work your whole life to get to to play in the big leagues, come here and then have a chance to compete in the playoffs. >> first baseman one of the many a's players choked up after winning the division. this morning they're looking forward to the playoffs. fans are too but are divided on whether they want another battle of the bay. >> not happening. giants are going to lose to the

nationals or the reds. >> and if it's oakland and san francisco? >> we are going to have another earthquake. >> celebrating, huh? >> the a's start the postseason in detroit on saturday. game time 3:00. the giants are at home against the reds on saturday starting at 6:30. >> baseball fever, catch it. it is 5:54 right now. a spokeswoman for kitchen aid says her company made a personal appall see to the president after one of its employees used the official kitchen aid twitter account to say something very cruel. scott mcgrew, this is not the first time it's happened. >> this is someone in the marketing department. they have two twitter accounts. the company's official account, his or her own personal account and then they mix them up. the kitchen aid tweet which took aim at the president and his grandmother was quickly taken down and it has happened before. recently the red cross tweeted out it was going to get very drunk. blizzard, it said. same problem.

shares in hewlett-packard will open at a ten-year low. a day after meg whitman told analysts it would take her much longer than expected to turn that company around and that its business and key serves division was drying up. hp stock fell nearly 13% wednesday. i'm not going to give you stock advice, but if you have hp has a future, this is a fire sale. and pop quiz, who's that guy? if you said mario d rchldro dp e ge you're right. last time he spoke he said europe would do whatever was next to save itself. then he never did anything. it was all talk and no action. like bluffing in poker. you get to do that one time an then people catch on. so people want to hear more today. >> indeed. >> the markets open in, what, 35 minutes. thank you very much, scott.

let's turn things over to christina. you have a look at the forecast. much cooler outside this morning. >> yeah, it's going to be really nice out there today, especially in san jose along the east shore where temperatures are going to max out in the 70s. 81 inland, 69 degrees at the coast and of course we have a lot happening in san francisco this weekend. wanting to take you through your fleet week, america's cup and giants forecast. friday will be the warmest at 69 degrees. saturday dropping off to 66 and then sunday, oh, the clouds will probably obstruct your vision. it's not looking so great for those blue angels but we're looking okay for saturday. that's going to be your best viewing day. we'll take a closer look at all these forecasts coming up and your seven-day. first let's check your drive. >> got that crazy photo montage. the south bay, a lot going on. northbound 101 just north of our shot here at 680 with northbound 101 backing up. the accident at old oakland road. the maps will show you that it's just north of that interchange

with 101 and 680 itself. sounds like three cars. i don't know about lanes because chp has yet to arrive but we do see it causing quite a bit of slowdown from tully approaching the scene. now the east bay, oakland 880 moves smoothly paf the coliseum. the b.a.r.t. train tracks are all clear out of earlier problems. major delays reported, that means 15 to 20 minutes systemwide. plan for that. back to you. 5:57. still ahead, the latest on the double homicide in vallejo. we'll have a live report coming right up. alright let's break it down. mom, pop it. ♪ two inches apart, becky. two inches. t-minus nine minutes.

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under the president's policies, milgt middle income americans have been buried. >> both candidates duke it out and the nation is watching. but does round one go to romney? reaction and reviews from the first presidential debate just ahead. a deadly dispute. e